Deflation or Healing? What’s Really Happening in 2025 | EJ Antoni
E.J. Antoni says we’re about to pay nearly $2 trillion a year just in interest. In this interview, he breaks down what’s really driving inflation, why deflation might be a good sign, and how politics at the Fed could shape everything from rates to recession.
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👨💼 Guest: E.J. Antoni, Ph.D.
🏢 Company: Chief Economist, The Heritage Foundation
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📅 Recording date: June 17th, 2025
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00:00 – $38 Trillion Debt & 5% Yields: Do the Math
00:42 – Welcome & Guest Introduction
01:35 – What is the Heritage Foundation?
03:10 – State of the U.S. Economy
04:50 – Cost of Living Crisis Explained
05:55 – How We Got Here: Bipartisan Spending
07:00 – Inflation, Rates & the Housing Squeeze
08:00 – How Much Worse Can It Get?
09:30 – What’s Driving Disinflation?
11:00 – Energy Policy Reversal & Price Drops
12:45 – Deflation: Threat or Recovery Sign?
14:00 – Government Efficiency & Job Shifts
16:10 – Will We See a Recession?
18:25 – 2025 Inflation Outlook
20:10 – CPI Trends: Biden vs. Trump
23:00 – Shock Therapy Policies in 2025
26:00 – Is the Big Beautiful Bill Enough?
28:00 – Political Gridlock & Budget Cuts
30:00 – Elon vs. Trump: Who Gets It?
32:30 – The Fed’s Political Problem
35:30 – Rapid Fire: Yields, Dollar, Rates
39:00 – Closing Thoughts & Where to Follow E.J.
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